Yours Conditionally seems to contradict the idyllic romantic idea of unconditional love. It also raises questions about personal identity in relationships. Is that intentional?
My understanding of marriage and unconditional love is complex, challenged by feminism and need for autonomy within a relationship. I don’t often see nuanced discussions of love and identity in pop culture. There are lots of songs about new love, burning infatuation or heartbreak, but what about old love, ten years in? That’s the stage I’m at in life. I want to see my experience reflected in the world around me, so I had to make it myself.
Identity, archetypes, love, self-sacrifice and feminism are some key words we can extract from Yours Conditionally. Can you tell us a bit more about them?
I’m interested in marriage and feminism, because marriage is a patriarchal invention and feminism is a critique of patriarchy. I wondered, how can I be a feminist and get married? How much convention can I have, and how much should I reject? I wish I had an answer to that question. I don’t. It lives with me as a constant negotiation and I try to write songs about that. Music fills in the gaps left between words.
The two of you sailed away to write songs seasoned with salty winds and floating melodies for this album. What is it like creating out at sea?
It’s much easier. The challenge of writing is eclipsed by the much greater challenges of captaining a ship at sea. It frees up my mind to do what it wants without the doubt and criticism that usually plagues my writing.
Is the curated photo album of sailing travels you are releasing a tribute to your connection with the ocean?
It’s more of a desire to archive these experiences and share them in a way that translates what it is like to live on a sailboat. I want to convey the everydayness, the mundane reality of sailing, with someone who has never been on a boat.